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moonsenshi18 Member
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Posted: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:28:53 UTC Post subject: Alternating Series Test |
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Hi !
Just one more problem I need some help with!
How can I show that the summation n=1 to infinity of (-1)^n*n / 4^n is convergent by the Alternating Series Test?
I hope it is possible because I would like to estimate the sum by using the Alternating Series Estimation Theorem, which I can't use until I know that the given series is convergent by the A.S.T.
I m having trouble showing the limit as n approaches infinity of Bn (b sub-n) = 0.
Once again ideas by Monday would be wonderful!
I really do appreciate all the help so far  |
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Kungsman Member of the 'S.O.S. Math' Hall of Fame

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Posted: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:43:59 UTC Post subject: |
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Do you know what the alternating series test (Leibniz' test) is? It's pretty straightforward to verify the conditions that has to be met...
Umm, by , do you perhaps mean
You should have learned long ago that exponentials grow much faster than power functions. |
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qleak Member of the 'S.O.S. Math' Hall of Fame

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Posted: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:48:23 UTC Post subject: |
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I'll use the AST as shown below:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternating_series_test
Your series is
So all you need to do is show that
The limit is calc I material unless, of course, you're asked to show that its zero. |
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Kungsman Member of the 'S.O.S. Math' Hall of Fame

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Posted: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 15:02:08 UTC Post subject: |
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One way to show that
is to use the binomial theorem. We have
so
and perhaps you can say something about what happens to this last fraction when x gets bigger. |
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Kungsman Member of the 'S.O.S. Math' Hall of Fame

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Posted: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 15:05:01 UTC Post subject: |
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I think it should be
at least if you read from the left to the right, which of course isn't the case in all countries, but common in english...  |
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jinydu Member of the 'S.O.S. Math' Hall of Fame
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Posted: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 15:27:05 UTC Post subject: |
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| moonsenshi, don't you have anything more to say on the "estimating a p-series" thread? |
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Marvin_M Member of the 'S.O.S. Math' Hall of Fame

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Posted: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 15:29:41 UTC Post subject: |
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Don't forget that the alternating series test has a monotonicity condition as well.
Since only the tail determines convergence, we need to show that for some N,
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Kungsman Member of the 'S.O.S. Math' Hall of Fame

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Posted: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 15:31:27 UTC Post subject: |
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| Marvin_M wrote: | Don't forget that the alternating series test has a monotonicity condition as well.
Since only the tail determines convergence, we need to show that for some N,
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I think we leave that for moonsenshi18 to prove. |
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Marvin_M Member of the 'S.O.S. Math' Hall of Fame

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Posted: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 15:33:51 UTC Post subject: |
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| Kungsman wrote: | | Marvin_M wrote: | Don't forget that the alternating series test has a monotonicity condition as well.
Since only the tail determines convergence, we need to show that for some N,
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I think we leave that for moonsenshi18 to prove. |
My thoughts exactly.
Edit: Of course I know that you know such a condition must be checked.
The comment was intended for moonsenshi18. |
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Matt Member of the 'S.O.S. Math' Hall of Fame

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Posted: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 22:13:18 UTC Post subject: |
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| Kungsman wrote: | One way to show that
is to use the binomial theorem. |
Or L'Hospital's Rule. |
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Kungsman Member of the 'S.O.S. Math' Hall of Fame

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Posted: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 09:01:17 UTC Post subject: |
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| Matthew wrote: | | Kungsman wrote: | One way to show that
is to use the binomial theorem. |
Or L'Hospital's Rule. |
Americans and their L'Hospital...  |
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